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this is the home of the clinton presidential library, and maybe the hilary clinton presidential library. >> stephanie: oh, i hope so. i was just talking to somebody about that yesterday. >> caller: when are you coming down here, we have a lot of liberals down here. >> stephanie: yes, i have never been to the clinton library. >> caller: well, come on down. what i wanted to point out, and it has already been said here before, basically -- the republicans are trying to throw grandma and grandpa under the bus because of the $3 trillion war debt. >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: this is what this is somebody. americans claim to be patriotic, and so many of us wanted to go to war after 9/11 then why don't we have a surtax on the bottom of our income tax reform so we can all pay, but people like mitt romney should be paying more also. >> stephanie: absolutely. >> all of the politicians who supported the iraq war should be paying more. >> stephanie: there you go. and by the way -- >> i am not one of your fans! >> stephanie: sexy liberal hal sparks and spongebob square pants on the big show tomorr
this is the home of the clinton presidential library, and maybe the hilary clinton presidential library. >> stephanie: oh, i hope so. i was just talking to somebody about that yesterday. >> caller: when are you coming down here, we have a lot of liberals down here. >> stephanie: yes, i have never been to the clinton library. >> caller: well, come on down. what i wanted to point out, and it has already been said here before, basically -- the republicans are trying to...
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in fact from kennedy to reagan to clinton to w. bush lower tax rates frequently increased tax revenues, particularly at the upper end of the income stream. so here now to discuss this we have cnbc contributor keith boykin a former clinton white house aide and forbes media chairman steve forbes author of freedom manifesto, why free markets are moral and big government is not. love that. hey steve and keith. keith boykin i'll give you a little supply side. you'll hate this. this couples from the irs. the irs is going to use the bush cut, the dreaded bush tax cuts. the richest 1% paid $84 billion inflation adjusted dollars more between 2000 and 2007. that's a rise of 23%. in other words, their tax rates went down. and their tax revenues went up. now, isn't mr. obama making a mistake? >> well, the rich are paying more in taxes because the rich are disproportionately receiving most of the income in this country. the reality, larry, is that in my lifetime we've actually only raised income tax rates three times. once in 1969 to pay for th
in fact from kennedy to reagan to clinton to w. bush lower tax rates frequently increased tax revenues, particularly at the upper end of the income stream. so here now to discuss this we have cnbc contributor keith boykin a former clinton white house aide and forbes media chairman steve forbes author of freedom manifesto, why free markets are moral and big government is not. love that. hey steve and keith. keith boykin i'll give you a little supply side. you'll hate this. this couples from the...
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president clinton, the surplus, he got that partly from raising revenue. raising taxes. but also he did it in a way that grew the economy and the nation prospered and the debt became no big deal and then the debt was gone and the debt clocks that were supposed to be scary got shut off. that was because of prioritizing economic growth and being willing to raise revenues. look when we started growing again after the recession. it was not long after the stimulus kicked in. the government spent money and the economy grew. that's how it works. that's why it used to be a beltway consensus when the economy needed to e grow, you needed economic stimulus in terms of your fiscal policy. now the discussion about how we need to make sure we contract the economy and cause as much pain as possible to the people who will be hurt the most by that contracting, maybe that makes sense on sunday morning, but the rest of us go to work during the week and sometimes we go to parties. right now as we speak, here's the scene in washington. at the white house, which bo obama has shown us what it
president clinton, the surplus, he got that partly from raising revenue. raising taxes. but also he did it in a way that grew the economy and the nation prospered and the debt became no big deal and then the debt was gone and the debt clocks that were supposed to be scary got shut off. that was because of prioritizing economic growth and being willing to raise revenues. look when we started growing again after the recession. it was not long after the stimulus kicked in. the government spent...
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rates are relatively low historically, so the idea you raise them back to what people considered in the clinton era a reasonable rate is just a reasonable thing to do. it's not outrageous. really defaulting on the fact that tax rates have to go down, ultimately it falls on deaf ears. nobody likes to pay taxes, but we got to close the gap somehow. >> sure. could not agree with you more on that last point. if he we go back to the sort of origins of the self-inflicted fiscal whatever it is, you know, this all came out basically of the debt ceiling crisis of 2011 where republicans said, we are not going to do what we've done repeatedly for the past 30 years and just automatically raise the debt ceiling. we're going to hold the country hostage over that. one thing we keep hearing over and over is markets and businesses hate uncertainty. bruce bar let put this debt limit debate into context better than i could today. he wrote the debt limit is nuts and serves no useful purpose to allow members of congress to vote for vast cuts in taxation and increases in spending and telling the truzary it's not per
rates are relatively low historically, so the idea you raise them back to what people considered in the clinton era a reasonable rate is just a reasonable thing to do. it's not outrageous. really defaulting on the fact that tax rates have to go down, ultimately it falls on deaf ears. nobody likes to pay taxes, but we got to close the gap somehow. >> sure. could not agree with you more on that last point. if he we go back to the sort of origins of the self-inflicted fiscal whatever it is,...
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we'll go back to the clinton era, which will happen at the beginning of the year. >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: and i mean also other people in the lower-income brackets will have to pay more, but i think we're willing to do that. >> stephanie: i don't think it's a preferable thing to go off of the cliff, but the more and more you see republicans have not changed one bit from their obstructionist ways i think, yeah, maybe. >> caller: it doesn't mean that starting january, the world will come to an end. >> caller: yeah, it's gradual. >> caller: and if you ask the people -- fortunately i live in texas, so the previous president i didn't -- i agree with a lot of times, but i will just say that he never asked us to sacrifice anything. he told us to go shopping. >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: that is -- it's crazy. >> stephanie: exactly, unless you cut a [ inaudible ] for that last pair of [ mumbling ] shoes. >> stephanie: i should have picked an easier to pronounce shoe. >> keds. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: this is the headlines. they really have not -- they presented another budget where
we'll go back to the clinton era, which will happen at the beginning of the year. >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: and i mean also other people in the lower-income brackets will have to pay more, but i think we're willing to do that. >> stephanie: i don't think it's a preferable thing to go off of the cliff, but the more and more you see republicans have not changed one bit from their obstructionist ways i think, yeah, maybe. >> caller: it doesn't mean that starting...
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clinton is retiring as secretary of state. that's your 5@5:00. >>> the ball is back in president obama keerts. house republicans unveiling a bold proposal to avoid a so-called fiscal cliff. the white house didn't waste any time attacking it. kelly wright is live in washington with more on this. good morning, kelly. >> good morning to you. the back and forth is continuing in a letter with president obama. american people expect leaders to find fair middle ground with the nation's most pressing challenges. with that they propose is a counter over for the fiscal cliff. the republican plan has will00 billion for tax freerm 900 billion in mandatory spending cuts and 300 billion in discretionary cuts. the proposal falls short of what the president wants and cannot be taken seriously. >>> we understand they don't agree with everything the president has put on the table but we haven't seen alternatives for that. they have spoken about an avenue and that challenge is welcome. republican leaders have been adamant they don't believe rate
clinton is retiring as secretary of state. that's your 5@5:00. >>> the ball is back in president obama keerts. house republicans unveiling a bold proposal to avoid a so-called fiscal cliff. the white house didn't waste any time attacking it. kelly wright is live in washington with more on this. good morning, kelly. >> good morning to you. the back and forth is continuing in a letter with president obama. american people expect leaders to find fair middle ground with the nation's...
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but more popular than hillary clinton and laura bush. alison samuels, it's good to have you here. i appreciate it. >> thank you. thank you for having me. >> all right. so everyone want to know if michelle obama would follow into the political for she has said that she's not interested in politics but it hasn't stopped people from asking that question. >> no, it doesn't. >> when she appeared at the democratic convention in september, i think people were reminded of how smart and engaging she is and that started the chatter of, what if she ran for public office given that she's or the of able to galvanize people with her speech, her smile, with her sort of -- she's so passionate about everything that she talks about, all of her initiatives. she really pushes very hard for. i think a the lo of people are wondering, even though she doesn't want to be a politician, what kind of role would she have in public after her husband got out of office. i don't think she'll run for office but i think she'll have a very strong presence once his term is up. >> samuel l. jackson has said, michelle
but more popular than hillary clinton and laura bush. alison samuels, it's good to have you here. i appreciate it. >> thank you. thank you for having me. >> all right. so everyone want to know if michelle obama would follow into the political for she has said that she's not interested in politics but it hasn't stopped people from asking that question. >> no, it doesn't. >> when she appeared at the democratic convention in september, i think people were reminded of how...
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bill clinton along with others says if there's a movie made about hillary clinton, meryl streep should get the part. >>> next, secretary who? at a u.n. event to benefit people with disabilities, john mccain took on the rumors of who will be the next secretary of state after an introduction from john kerry. >> senator mccain. >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> kerry stepped up again after mccain but refused to bite on that one. >> thank you very much, mr. president. this is what happens when you get two losers up here, folks. >> that was a good line. kerry has been careful to stay clear of the public speculation about whom the president will actually pick to replace hillary clinton. >>> also, arizona governor jan brewer, she's a heavyweight, in a comment about global warming. she doesn't think it's manmade, but her own explanation for climate change is rather lacking. here is what she told a local reporter. >> everybody has an opinion on it, you know, and i probably don't believe it's manmade. i believe that, you know, weather and certain elements are controlled maybe by differen
bill clinton along with others says if there's a movie made about hillary clinton, meryl streep should get the part. >>> next, secretary who? at a u.n. event to benefit people with disabilities, john mccain took on the rumors of who will be the next secretary of state after an introduction from john kerry. >> senator mccain. >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> kerry stepped up again after mccain but refused to bite on that one. >> thank you very much, mr....
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try to do something a little bit more mainstream with a little bit more broad appeal, a la hillary clinton in her first couple of months up here on capitol hill. they don't expect her to focus entire loin the consumer financial protection bureau, for example. they think she would like a larger beach head on capitol hill and i think that is where this is going. >> thank you very much. take it down to sue at the nyse. >> i have kenny poll carry, independent trader at the nyse with me. you made a note in your morning note that we are stuck this in range until we get progress. >> look where we are, between 1400 on the downside you can and 1420 the upside. today, done absolutely nothing, at 1404, 1406 all day, not a lot of action, not a lot of activity at all. people just in this wait and see mode, right? more chatter out of washington. i think a lot of people expecting the interview with the president, hear what he had to same the market got weaker after spoke. >> down 18 point on the trading session now the volume disturbing now, because there is none. >> that just tells that you investors ar
try to do something a little bit more mainstream with a little bit more broad appeal, a la hillary clinton in her first couple of months up here on capitol hill. they don't expect her to focus entire loin the consumer financial protection bureau, for example. they think she would like a larger beach head on capitol hill and i think that is where this is going. >> thank you very much. take it down to sue at the nyse. >> i have kenny poll carry, independent trader at the nyse with me....
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he says representative cole if we restore the clinton tax rates today than in ten years, 2022, we have the deficit where it should be. >> guest: he is certainly correct to generate a great deal more revenue. if we did that let's say they made for under $50,000 that is a 2,000-dollar tax increase and again i don't think the president wants to do that. he said he doesn't want to do that our side doesn't want to do that. you know, going back to the clinton tax rate, and remember the average american family has taken a terrific hit. the median household income for years ago when the president became the president was around $54,000 a year and is about 50 now. so this portion of the population which is gotten squeezed tremendously i don't think adding an extra tax at the 98 percent is going to, number one, be very helpful to the more helpful to the economic growth. number two it's how much you want the folks to pay? so again, freezing those tax rates with an overwhelming majority of americans is a smart thing to do, we ought to do it and both sides say they want to. >> host: and you said ea
he says representative cole if we restore the clinton tax rates today than in ten years, 2022, we have the deficit where it should be. >> guest: he is certainly correct to generate a great deal more revenue. if we did that let's say they made for under $50,000 that is a 2,000-dollar tax increase and again i don't think the president wants to do that. he said he doesn't want to do that our side doesn't want to do that. you know, going back to the clinton tax rate, and remember the average...
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clinton in the six-minute clip. this video seems like an international endorsement of a presidential campaign ad all rolled into one. but the kind words didn't stop there. hillary clinton's boss recorded this special message for her. >> through it all, i have relied on the shining qualities that have defined your life. your conviction, your optimism, your belief that america can and must be a force for good in the world. i'll say it again. you've been one of the best secretary of states in american history. >> there doesn't seem to be any democrats that could come close to hillary clinton or joe biden when it comes to running for president, but there's plenty of time. we're only three years and 11 months away from election day. let's turn to michael tomasky, correspondent for "the daily beast". it's a lot of fun to talk about it, but it's amazing -- not that she doesn't deserve it. it's a quick endorsement on all fronts globally. how do you compete with that? >> it's awfully tough to compete with that. the speculati
clinton in the six-minute clip. this video seems like an international endorsement of a presidential campaign ad all rolled into one. but the kind words didn't stop there. hillary clinton's boss recorded this special message for her. >> through it all, i have relied on the shining qualities that have defined your life. your conviction, your optimism, your belief that america can and must be a force for good in the world. i'll say it again. you've been one of the best secretary of states...
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and what clinton could do in the future, i don't know. i don't know why obama is so insistent on higher tax rates except it fits his rhetoric. stuart: at the end of the day, i think that the republicans will actually submit on the issue of higher tax rates. it may be just tax rates higher for those making half a million a year, i think they'll retreat a little bit. >> i think, too, what i'd like to see the republicans do, i'd like to see them pass a bill extending tax cuts below $250,000 and everyone agrees those should be put through and then put through another bill that extends the tax cuts on those $250,000 and above and let the democrats take ownership because you know, they're going to be held responsible for the economic performance of 2013 and come 2014, you can actually get a political change that might make a difference. stuart: we'll wait and see on that one. art laffer, always a pleasure. >> bye now. stuart: the republicans submit their fiscal cliff solution. now, that plan put out by speaker boehner, includes 800 billion doll
and what clinton could do in the future, i don't know. i don't know why obama is so insistent on higher tax rates except it fits his rhetoric. stuart: at the end of the day, i think that the republicans will actually submit on the issue of higher tax rates. it may be just tax rates higher for those making half a million a year, i think they'll retreat a little bit. >> i think, too, what i'd like to see the republicans do, i'd like to see them pass a bill extending tax cuts below $250,000...
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this offer more bipartisan credibility, speaker boehner said the plan is based on a proposal by former clinton chief of staff erskine bowles. bowles said he was flattered by the use of his name but satsz the proposal, quote -- so far, this greek fiscal drama has yet failed to return. the larger question for america, the play ends in tragedy on december 31st. joining me now from washington, is the president for -- president of americans for tax reform, conservative counter broker and the man who does not believe in unicorns, pink or otherwise, mr. grover norquist. grover, what a day to have you on the show. thanks for joining us. >> absolutely. of course, you know, north korea and -- media announced they did find unicorns in north korea. >> we don't often take our cues from them. i am one that firmly believes in the existence of unicorns somewhere and hopefully maybe in this fiscal cliff deal. grover, the first question i have for you is this, your pledge, the pledge that many republicans have signed on to, opposes any and all efforts to increase marginal income tax rates and opposes any net re
this offer more bipartisan credibility, speaker boehner said the plan is based on a proposal by former clinton chief of staff erskine bowles. bowles said he was flattered by the use of his name but satsz the proposal, quote -- so far, this greek fiscal drama has yet failed to return. the larger question for america, the play ends in tragedy on december 31st. joining me now from washington, is the president for -- president of americans for tax reform, conservative counter broker and the man who...
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secretary clinton said she was not interested. politico reports actress ashley judd is seriously considering a run for 2014 against mitch mcconnell in his home state of kentucky. mcconnell's office warned he will not go easy on whoever the democratic challenger is but did not reference judd specifically. mitt romney is going back to work at his own job. marriott international has announced romney rejoined the board of directors after resigning two years ago. as for how much romney will earn, s.e.c. showed that directors received a base pay of $60,000 plus $1250 for every meeting they attended. romney has a long-time friendship with the members of marriott family and has served on the board off and on since 1993. >>> all right. time for the "news nation" gut check. bloomberg news is reporting that president obama is considering "vogue" anna wintor to be the next u.s. ambassador to the uk or france. she raised $500,000 for his re-election campaign. she's been at "vogue" for more than 25 years and they say she's very happy about the
secretary clinton said she was not interested. politico reports actress ashley judd is seriously considering a run for 2014 against mitch mcconnell in his home state of kentucky. mcconnell's office warned he will not go easy on whoever the democratic challenger is but did not reference judd specifically. mitt romney is going back to work at his own job. marriott international has announced romney rejoined the board of directors after resigning two years ago. as for how much romney will earn,...
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>> i think that -- i have so much respect and admiration for hillary clinton, secretary clinton has done an amazing job as secretary of state. i know she's earned and deserves and looking forward to the well-earned rest she's planning to take and she's an incredible leader who has a tremendous future as a leader of the united states of america. >> well, if you looked at the video that introduced her at the forum on friday night here, a the lot of people are suggesting that well-earned rest is only going to be a prelude to something else down the road and not -- >> we'll give her a little time to rest and then i'm sure that she'll be pressed into service and knowing secretary clinton, i'm sure she doesn't plan to rest very long. >> thanks very much. >> thank you. >> thank you, congresswoman. >> and coming up next, why won't the president sit down with john boehner? more from that new interview with president obama, next. [ fishing rod casting line, marching band playing ] [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request sou
>> i think that -- i have so much respect and admiration for hillary clinton, secretary clinton has done an amazing job as secretary of state. i know she's earned and deserves and looking forward to the well-earned rest she's planning to take and she's an incredible leader who has a tremendous future as a leader of the united states of america. >> well, if you looked at the video that introduced her at the forum on friday night here, a the lot of people are suggesting that...
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on friday secretary of state hillary clinton criticized the israeli construction plan as well saying it will set back the cause of the negotiated peace. today state department spokesman mark toner echoed clinton's warning. >> we consider these kinds of actions, these kinds of unilateral decisions to be counterproductive and make it harder to resume direct negotiations. >> suarez: israeli settlers dismissed the outside criticism. instead they said there should be no stopping the construction for any reason. >> this announcement is actually called for. the big question is why do we need to do these things as a reaction to something? if we believe in our ability, in our need to build and expand the land of israel then that's what we should do regardless of what the other side is doing. >> suarez: an israeli government planning meeting on the new settlement is expected later this week. actual construction could still be months or even years away. for more on what the possible construction of this settlement could mean for the stalled peace process, i'm joined by david makovsky of the was
on friday secretary of state hillary clinton criticized the israeli construction plan as well saying it will set back the cause of the negotiated peace. today state department spokesman mark toner echoed clinton's warning. >> we consider these kinds of actions, these kinds of unilateral decisions to be counterproductive and make it harder to resume direct negotiations. >> suarez: israeli settlers dismissed the outside criticism. instead they said there should be no stopping the...
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members of president clinton's economic team, people like bob rubin and larry podesta, have put their name to a plan that calls for $200 billion more in tax revenue than even the president is asking. for more now we have with us william cohen in new york, a columnist for the bloomberg view, and clarence page, a columnist for "the chicago tribune." welcome to both of you. clarence, one thing this makes plain is democrats are feeling confident in a fiscal cliff win. why not ask for more? >> well, they're certainly asking for more than president obama is asking, and that is the point here. they feel that the policies of the clinton era that gave us the prosperity that we saw back then would be good to impose now. they are really calling for a different kind of arrangement pushing for a simplification of the tax code that would include taxes on cigarettes and alcoholic beverages which would cross income lines, those kind of consumer taxes hit lower income tax people -- taxpayers as well as upper, and they want to get rid of the amt, that automatic tax that's designed to make sure that old
members of president clinton's economic team, people like bob rubin and larry podesta, have put their name to a plan that calls for $200 billion more in tax revenue than even the president is asking. for more now we have with us william cohen in new york, a columnist for the bloomberg view, and clarence page, a columnist for "the chicago tribune." welcome to both of you. clarence, one thing this makes plain is democrats are feeling confident in a fiscal cliff win. why not ask for...
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we need to go back to the clinton era rates for the most well off americans. it's not going to kill us. the line between freedom and tyranny is not the 35 we pay now and the 39 that the rich will pay as we did when america was a communist paradise. it's just silly now. you've got to be for a tax rate increase or we will go over this fiscal cliff. >> no, you don't. you could raise from a carbon tax of $20 a ton, which will deal with, we are having the biggest record carbon levels. you could raise -- at 4% a year over the next ten year, twice as much as you could from allowing the bush tax rates to lapse. why the income tax system is overburdened in the united states. we use it too much. we should be looking at other taxes. we can't do it in 29 days. why are we doing it in 29 days? >> but the president ran on >> the republicans must agree to higher tax rates on well off americans. all the way to the 39.6 that the president, they have to. that's the ticket for admission because the president won the election and campaigned on that. the democrats are going to have
we need to go back to the clinton era rates for the most well off americans. it's not going to kill us. the line between freedom and tyranny is not the 35 we pay now and the 39 that the rich will pay as we did when america was a communist paradise. it's just silly now. you've got to be for a tax rate increase or we will go over this fiscal cliff. >> no, you don't. you could raise from a carbon tax of $20 a ton, which will deal with, we are having the biggest record carbon levels. you...
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new york city mayor bloomberg called hillary clinton and said you should be my successor as mayor. how do you think that conversation went? i think being a mayor of new york city gives you an opportunity to imagine things that are possible but not in real life. i can imagine how hillary clinton would be enticed to take on that smaller stage after her staging as the nation and the world for the last decade. >> jim, i wonder if she was flattered by it or thought to herself, i'm on the world stage here. why would i go and become mayor of new york city? >> i mean, everything i've read about sect clinton suggests that she's looking forward to a break at the end of this year. i don't think running for mayor is very conducive to that. it's not my idea of a relaxing time but i may be wrong. >> people are joking that mayor bloomberg looks tired. it's a big job. but the one thing she's been consistent about, she needs to sleep a little. great to see you. jim, thank you as well. >>> meantime, the u.s. navy is denying iran's claim that it has captured an unmanned drone. they say that none are
new york city mayor bloomberg called hillary clinton and said you should be my successor as mayor. how do you think that conversation went? i think being a mayor of new york city gives you an opportunity to imagine things that are possible but not in real life. i can imagine how hillary clinton would be enticed to take on that smaller stage after her staging as the nation and the world for the last decade. >> jim, i wonder if she was flattered by it or thought to herself, i'm on the world...
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and david wrote, hillary clinton is running for president. he came to that conclusion after attending a forum in washington where hillary clinton was a featured speaker and was introduced by what remnick calls a short, adoring film. the film was like an international endorsement four years in advance of the iowa caucus and the new hampshire primary. >> if you bet on the side of human rights, human dignity, more countries may have the same extraordinary good fortune that we've had. ♪ and when you smile >> someone who knows a thing or two about political comebacks, i can tell you i don't think we've heard the last of hillary clinton. ♪ girl you're amazing just the way you are ♪ >> i just have an instinct that the best is yet to come. >> joining me now, "the washington post" and jonathan capeheart. >> come on, these leaving her term as secretary of state. she's arguably been one of the best that we've had in a while. she's loved by clearly lots of people around the world, particularly foreign leaders and so there she is at this forum fille
and david wrote, hillary clinton is running for president. he came to that conclusion after attending a forum in washington where hillary clinton was a featured speaker and was introduced by what remnick calls a short, adoring film. the film was like an international endorsement four years in advance of the iowa caucus and the new hampshire primary. >> if you bet on the side of human rights, human dignity, more countries may have the same extraordinary good fortune that we've had. ♪ and...
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california and our entire state, we join president barack obama, secretary of state hillary rodham clinton, democratic leader nancy pelosi and expensive network of people in saluting ambassador chris stevens who will be remembered for his strong sense of dignity, his humility and his generous service to others. he will be truly missed by all who loved him and by all he served throughout the magnitude of his life's work. thank you for this honor. [applause] >>> members of christopher stevens family, ladies and gentlemen, let me first thank chris stevens' brothers and sisters for their warm and delightful insights into what he was really like. thank you so much. that was fantastic what you did for us. christopher stevens was obviously an extraordinary human being and contributor. every year at stanford we have a group of what we call national security fellows come. they were roughly army, navy, air force, state department. a couple weeks ago we had a meeting and the first person i called on was an army colonel. i said where were you last? he said in libya. i said did you know christopher ste
california and our entire state, we join president barack obama, secretary of state hillary rodham clinton, democratic leader nancy pelosi and expensive network of people in saluting ambassador chris stevens who will be remembered for his strong sense of dignity, his humility and his generous service to others. he will be truly missed by all who loved him and by all he served throughout the magnitude of his life's work. thank you for this honor. [applause] >>> members of christopher...
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brought back to where they were under clinton. that's the catalyst that has to be brought home to republicans. they can make the deal whenever but they best make it now. if they make it late there will be hell to pay for all of us, including them. the people running the government. the politicians. good politicians don't take their countries off of cliffs. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "politicsnation" with al sharpton starts right now. >>> thanks, chris. and thanks to you for tuning in. i'm live from washington, d.c. tonight's lead, the end of an era. for more than 20 years republicans have calmed to the one policy that's crippled our ability to get things done in washington. do you remember this? >> read my lips. no new taxes. >> read my lips, no new taxes. george h.w. bush hammered that mantra to win the white house in 1988. but just two years later, the reagan deficits were skyrocketing and president bush was forced to change his most famous line. >> long and bitter battle over the budget officially ende
brought back to where they were under clinton. that's the catalyst that has to be brought home to republicans. they can make the deal whenever but they best make it now. if they make it late there will be hell to pay for all of us, including them. the people running the government. the politicians. good politicians don't take their countries off of cliffs. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "politicsnation" with al sharpton starts right now. >>>...
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president of americans for tax reform and robert reish, former secretary of labor for president bill clinton and the author of "beyond outrage." none of the three of us are beyond outrage, grover norquist, which is why i keep having you back. the situation it seems to me as an impartial observer here is that both sides have now made fairly ludicrous offers that they know the other side is never going to accept in a million years. that does beg the question, grover, why bother, given that both sides know where they need to move, why the games? >> well, it's not clear that both sides know. the week after the election, president obama was asked do you have to have the higher rates or could we have deductions and credits and he said he was open to negotiations. three weeks later, after thanksgiving, he shows up and all of a sudden there's a line in the sand on rates that had come out of nowhere, so the president seems to be moving the goal posts in a deliberate effort, i don't know, to extract something, to push people over the fiscal cliff. something's going on and it's not clear because he's n
president of americans for tax reform and robert reish, former secretary of labor for president bill clinton and the author of "beyond outrage." none of the three of us are beyond outrage, grover norquist, which is why i keep having you back. the situation it seems to me as an impartial observer here is that both sides have now made fairly ludicrous offers that they know the other side is never going to accept in a million years. that does beg the question, grover, why bother, given...
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today secretary of state clinton mentioned only using them. jay carney, the white house spokesman also repeated that phrase, did not mention the president's earlier condition about moving them around. so it's a little bit unclear whether the administration perhaps has changed its red line. >> rose: do you think the united states is thinking about doing this unilaterally or is this an action taking place in conjunction with other forces from other countries? >> no, whatever action will be taken, charlie, would almost certainly be done in conjunction with other allies in the region. the jordanians, for instance, the turks, all have been closely consulted in recent months. the u.s. is actually operating out of a small business in jordan, about 150 troops there helping the jordanians deal with the exodus of refugees coming out of syria as well as preparing for the possible use of chemical weapons in syria itself. >> rose: how about the israelis? >> of course, the israelis -- of course they are watching this very closely in the region with intellig
today secretary of state clinton mentioned only using them. jay carney, the white house spokesman also repeated that phrase, did not mention the president's earlier condition about moving them around. so it's a little bit unclear whether the administration perhaps has changed its red line. >> rose: do you think the united states is thinking about doing this unilaterally or is this an action taking place in conjunction with other forces from other countries? >> no, whatever action...
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in the '90s when the government shut down eyeball to eyeball negotiations were going on between bill clinton and then speaker newt gingrich and the government did shut down. the president emerged on both occasions, two shutdowns, in a stronger political position because the american public blamed the conservatives, the republicans in congress more than they blamed the white house. so that is the one area where the white house is saying, look, they have some leverage on that. >> let me ask you this, wolf. you have been at this game a long time. this intractability sounds and feel it's like nothing we have ever seen before. do you have any sort of, i don't know, light on the horizon that you see? are we going to be this polarized and literally make the country pay for what's now become just sheer ugly politics? >> my own gut tells me that between now and the end of the year they will reach a deal. and it will be a compromise and both sides won't be thrilled by it, but it will be better than the alternative. and it will probably go down to the last minute. it usually does. maybe ruin some chris
in the '90s when the government shut down eyeball to eyeball negotiations were going on between bill clinton and then speaker newt gingrich and the government did shut down. the president emerged on both occasions, two shutdowns, in a stronger political position because the american public blamed the conservatives, the republicans in congress more than they blamed the white house. so that is the one area where the white house is saying, look, they have some leverage on that. >> let me ask...
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you go back and look at bill clinton after the attacks on the u.s. embassies in africa on august 7th of 1998, it took a little more than two weeks for bill clinton to respond force knee by dropping bombs on the farm suit alplant in khartoum. i had other examples of rather quick, which isn't to say precipitous, rather quick responses in part to send aess message. it's very important for the families and everybody here in the united states to understand that justice has in fact been pursued and had and to send a message to the world, just as the president said, if you mess with the united states there are serious and potentially deadly consequences for doing so. bill: i just want to add this. about a month ago the deputy interior minister said the investigation was going well. about three weeks ago the ministry spokesman said the results would come soon. i put those in quotes because we are still waiting on that. steven hayes, thank you out of washington. martha: remember the homeless man whose picture went viral on the internet when a new york city po
you go back and look at bill clinton after the attacks on the u.s. embassies in africa on august 7th of 1998, it took a little more than two weeks for bill clinton to respond force knee by dropping bombs on the farm suit alplant in khartoum. i had other examples of rather quick, which isn't to say precipitous, rather quick responses in part to send aess message. it's very important for the families and everybody here in the united states to understand that justice has in fact been pursued and...
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former chief of staff of bill clinton. john has to leave us early. we have the director of the urban institute's tax policy center. we'll see if you two disagree on anything. we have will marshal from the progressive policy institute. we have senator bob packwood from oregon, former chairman of the senate finance committee, part of the 1986 negotiations. and the other folks here have been part of the conversation. my only message to the new arrivals, please jump in whenever you see fit. we have an hour to an hour and a half. if you hear something you want to weigh in on, don't wait for me. we're talking now about the other very small issue in this issue and that is tax policy and how best to put the nation on a sustainable fiscal path. the question of revenue, how much, where to get it, the options on the table and would like your thoughts. as you heard from chairman bachus. they need ideas to bridge this gap because we appear to be at a stale mate. i turn it over to john to get your thoughts knowing he has to leave and the center for american progre
former chief of staff of bill clinton. john has to leave us early. we have the director of the urban institute's tax policy center. we'll see if you two disagree on anything. we have will marshal from the progressive policy institute. we have senator bob packwood from oregon, former chairman of the senate finance committee, part of the 1986 negotiations. and the other folks here have been part of the conversation. my only message to the new arrivals, please jump in whenever you see fit. we have...
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leadership and he was really the protege of silliness a good party who is the person who along with clinton signed nafta and brought the impoverishment to mexico in the usurpation of collectively held lands that i mentioned earlier that has created the conditions for the drug trade to thrive as it has what we may see with the return to pretty government is the return to pretty policy of actually collaborating with drug cartels much more closely than the pan government the. above and beyond that what we've seen already is that when the installation of the new pena nieto government we've seen repression of protesters we've seen tear gas bullets rubber bullets fired into crowds it's not a very hopeful scenario in terms of human rights and peace really interesting appreciate you coming on the show that was pine assistant professor at american university thank you. so out here on r t drone sweet row iran claims to have captured yet another u.s. drone base as criticism mounts over how disconnected drone operators really are that story next. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politic
leadership and he was really the protege of silliness a good party who is the person who along with clinton signed nafta and brought the impoverishment to mexico in the usurpation of collectively held lands that i mentioned earlier that has created the conditions for the drug trade to thrive as it has what we may see with the return to pretty government is the return to pretty policy of actually collaborating with drug cartels much more closely than the pan government the. above and beyond that...
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going back to the clinton tax rates, remember, the average american family has taken a hit. median income four years ago was $54,000 a year. it is about $50,000 a year now. this portion of the population has been squeezed. adding taxes on 90% will not be helpful. how much do you want folks to bear? freezing those tax rates for the overwhelming majority of americans is a smart thing to do. host: you said fight later on. guest: the fight would start the next day. we could do what i'm talking about, and negotiations could continue. doing what i'm talking about does not violate what either side is fighting over. they both say this is something we want to do. why not make sure we do not have some last-minute failure at the end of december. guest: what gives you confidence that democrats would agree later on? guest: this is where i disagree with some of my colleagues. they seem to think the american people are leveraged, and this is the democrats leverage. our leverage is in the spending and entitlement issues. the president and his negotiators are smart and able people. they know
going back to the clinton tax rates, remember, the average american family has taken a hit. median income four years ago was $54,000 a year. it is about $50,000 a year now. this portion of the population has been squeezed. adding taxes on 90% will not be helpful. how much do you want folks to bear? freezing those tax rates for the overwhelming majority of americans is a smart thing to do. host: you said fight later on. guest: the fight would start the next day. we could do what i'm talking...
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. >> that was secretary clinton speaking in prague today but keeping it vague as you saw shep as to what washington might do about it. >> this isn't the first time that the president and the secretary of state have drawn this red line. >> no, it's not. and critics of the obama administration warn that setting such a high bar to greater u.s. involvement in that conflict, namely the waging of chemical war by a nation against its own citizenry could be sending the assad regime the wrong message. >> it sort of suggests or implies that anything up to this red line we're not going to take action. and i think it will be disheartening for that reason to the syrian opposition because as we said, shep, 40,000 people have been killed and i think they will will look at this and say, well, you know, how many more people would need to be killed before the international community decides to take action putting aside the question of the chemical weapons. >> now, the fighting in syria has gotten so bad that the united nations announced today it is withdrawing all of its nonessential personnel. about 25 o
. >> that was secretary clinton speaking in prague today but keeping it vague as you saw shep as to what washington might do about it. >> this isn't the first time that the president and the secretary of state have drawn this red line. >> no, it's not. and critics of the obama administration warn that setting such a high bar to greater u.s. involvement in that conflict, namely the waging of chemical war by a nation against its own citizenry could be sending the assad regime...
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did he specify the 39.6% rate of the clinton years? he did not. so is there a little give ultimately to sort of say what if it doesn't go up to 39.6%, but say 37%, is that something the white house would accept? also, this that same interview, the president raised the possibility, which is that after you do tax reform and you close loopholes and deductions, that if the rate is raised, the top rate, there's always a possibility that after you do tax reform, of course, the top rate would then go down again. so it was -- you have to listen to the president very carefully to see where there might be some give. the problem from my point of view is that everybody knows what's got to be done in the long-term. it's the question of the short-term deal. >> john boehner, speaker of the house, he came up with a proposal. but not all the conservatives in the house and the senate are on board. jim demint, republican senator from south carolina. >> this is a time to negotiate with ourselves. we need to invite the president to work with us. his proposal was so ou
did he specify the 39.6% rate of the clinton years? he did not. so is there a little give ultimately to sort of say what if it doesn't go up to 39.6%, but say 37%, is that something the white house would accept? also, this that same interview, the president raised the possibility, which is that after you do tax reform and you close loopholes and deductions, that if the rate is raised, the top rate, there's always a possibility that after you do tax reform, of course, the top rate would then go...
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>> it's not just the clinton tax rates. we had a pretty good economy under bill clinton. >> different spending rates, too, back then, governor. >> well, that's right. it's also cuts in defense which we haven't had in 30 years and a cut in human services, which i'd rather not do, but i think everybody needs to something on the table to get what we need to get. it's the best deal for the country. we'll have a recession. the cbo thinks and i agree with this, we'll have 1.3% negative growth for two quarters and we'll go back with a slightly less than 2% growth rate for the entire. we're not going to get out of this without pain. anybody when thinks we'll get through the deficit problem without having to do some sacrificing is wrong. what this does in my view as a democrat is it distributes the burden of the pain fairly, that is, we go back to the clinton tax rates for everybody, not just for rich folks. and we had a good economy under bill clinton. we go back -- we get -- cuts in defense spending which we know is higher than it
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mayor clinton? >> probably not. >> new york city is looking for a mayor. >> maybe something with a little more beach front property the next few years before thinking about iowa. >> i don't know. you're watching "starting point." we'll take some guesses. 0 calor? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. point." this just in, a school bus carrying children has crashed into a pole in seminole county, florida. this is from wftv who spoke to the florida highway patrol. troopers told them the children were taken off the bus.
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. >>> hillary clinton for new york city mayor. that's what outgoing mayor michael bloomberg wants. according to the "new york times," bloomberg reach ed out o the secretary of state and asked her to consider running next year but says hillary clinton declined. secretary said she will leave public service once her successor is in place. >>> one of the world's leading experts in fashion add the title of ambassador to her name? anna wintour, editor in chief of vogue magazine is one of several people president obama is considering for the ambassador post to the united kingdom or france. wintour is a u.s. citizen, but was born in the united kingdom. she is one of the president's biggest fund-raisers. >>> federal judge temporarily blocks federal law, banning the use of conversion therapy. his ruling applies to only three providers who want the law overturned. the therapy is aimed at helping change a minor sexual orientation from gay to straight. >>> 13 people dead, 32 wounded. now the judge in the case has been removed. u.s. court of appeals for the armed services says the judge showed b
. >>> hillary clinton for new york city mayor. that's what outgoing mayor michael bloomberg wants. according to the "new york times," bloomberg reach ed out o the secretary of state and asked her to consider running next year but says hillary clinton declined. secretary said she will leave public service once her successor is in place. >>> one of the world's leading experts in fashion add the title of ambassador to her name? anna wintour, editor in chief of vogue...
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to paraphrase bill clinton, we have to get to the point where we can address that, and in addition to the positives, i think we need to also go negative and the political campaigns exposed the hypocrisy. and the foreign fighter flows, are you seeing bigger numbers from the middle east and the arab world into, say, northern mali. >> northern mali is the tech challenge of the moment. the complete collapse of the malian government, so now there is no control in the northern two-thirds of the country, and i don't know how to describe it any way other than a safe haven for al qaeda in the lands of the islamic maghreb. islamic maghreb we believe is al qaeda's best financed affiliate, deriving their money from kidnap little for ransom, for involvement in the drug trade and other illicit trafficking, things so simple as fuel and tobacco and what have you. but they have a lot of money. now they have a lot of weapons. many of the -- again, for lack of a better term -- mercenaries mr. gadhafi fired to work in libya they decided they were not going to be paid or he was nose going to be around and
to paraphrase bill clinton, we have to get to the point where we can address that, and in addition to the positives, i think we need to also go negative and the political campaigns exposed the hypocrisy. and the foreign fighter flows, are you seeing bigger numbers from the middle east and the arab world into, say, northern mali. >> northern mali is the tech challenge of the moment. the complete collapse of the malian government, so now there is no control in the northern two-thirds of the...
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going back to the clinton era rate of 39% -- >> is it about fairness? or is it about lessening the deficit? because it doesn't really do a whole lot for the debt or deficit over ten years. >> well, it's about fairness, but it's also about what are the better options? given that the wealthy are really skating by these days. and so how do you collect more revenue from them? and all the various ideas about, well, you cap this deduction, and cap that deduction. there are not only political constituencies that will fight tooth and claw on every deducti deduction, there are some reasons, fairly good reasons why you would want to think twice. you know, are you going to go after home mortgage deduction at a time when the housing industry is trying to get its feet? are you going to go after the exemption on taxation for health insurance? i mean, that's the biggest one, actually. that's like $250 billion a year. but i don't think anybody wants to dive back into that at this point. so, you know, how else are you going to do it? >> arianna, can i just say that -- a
going back to the clinton era rate of 39% -- >> is it about fairness? or is it about lessening the deficit? because it doesn't really do a whole lot for the debt or deficit over ten years. >> well, it's about fairness, but it's also about what are the better options? given that the wealthy are really skating by these days. and so how do you collect more revenue from them? and all the various ideas about, well, you cap this deduction, and cap that deduction. there are not only...
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it is similar to what the former clinton chief of staff -- separate from that commission, he testified before the super committee last year and put forward his own proposal to try to break the impasse at that time. republicans say their current offer is not in that proposal, so it is not the simpsons-bowles plan that has gotten a lot of talk over the last few years, but it is modeled on a proposal from a leading democrat during these discussions, so they are hoping it will give some credibility going forward. the $800 billion they are offering is not the same as what john boehner offered in 2007. -- is the same as what john boehner offered in 2007. they will not accept any deal that keeps tax rates the same as well. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> you can read his proposal online by going to c-span.org and clicking to the lake. oklahoma congressman tom cole discusses the fiscal cliff negotiations and agrees with suggestions they should join president obama to extend the tax rates for the highest income earners the law professor john buckley looks at the history of the tax, plus your e-m
it is similar to what the former clinton chief of staff -- separate from that commission, he testified before the super committee last year and put forward his own proposal to try to break the impasse at that time. republicans say their current offer is not in that proposal, so it is not the simpsons-bowles plan that has gotten a lot of talk over the last few years, but it is modeled on a proposal from a leading democrat during these discussions, so they are hoping it will give some credibility...